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president obama need to call the debt deal a victory? raise the tax rate for the rich? that's at the top of the list but besides this and getting a deal done on time, what would really stuff the president's stocking, giving him a fresh start for his second term. shopping days, what would it take to make everyone happy or equally unhappy? a cut in government spending, a squeeze on medicare and medicaid. anything else? and finally hillary, clintons, both of them, global figures abroad, political superstars at home. to become in the four years, does she just have to wait? would anyone challenge her for the prize? could a hot new republican give her trouble, or cause her not to run? i'm chris matthews, welcome to the show. with us today, john harris, kelly o'donnell, michelle caruso-cabrera and david ignatius with "the washington post." first up, will president obama convince republicans to give him a compromise that's big enough, sweeping enough to end this month on a high note? to cap off his election win and get a clean start on his second term. a victory for the president would look like
a report or # 2 days, or as we will explain later, less to go. >> president obama back on the road 24. hours after the hush-hush meeting with john boehner about the fiscal cliff. insiders in both parties say the first face-to-face solo meeting in over a year is a sign in private they are making progress but in public the president is not budging. >> i'm in the going to compromise on that principle because i won't have a situation where the wealthiest among us including folks like me keep the tax breaks and we ask the students to pay higher student loans. >> he decided to fire up the labor union base. about a republican pushbe for right to work laws in the state. >> what we shouldn't do, what we shouldn't doing is trying to take away your right to bargain for better wages at work. >> the employees cheered when the president took aim at the republican governor and legislature. >> we are talking about giving you the right to work for less money. >> the president called if union dispute and the fiscal cliff manufacturered crisis as he sounded a pessimistic tone about the possibility of an
. so, president obama is taking action and insisting that republicans agree to increase the existing marginal tax rates on the wealthiest top 2% of u.s. taxpayers. and of course, there is more to the deal. but there will be no negotiations on that big part of the deal unless that tax on the wealthiest 2% is negotiated now. the president could not be more emphatic in stressing the indispensable element of surmounting the cliff is that super-rich revenue. >> we're not insisting on rates just out of spite. or out of any kind of partisan bickering. but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> okay. here is john boehner, the republican house speaker. >> if you look at the plans that the white house have talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. >> republicans proposed raising $800 billion in extra revenues. and that revenue should come through tax reform and closing loopholes. happy new year. question, patrick, looking into the crystal ball and tell us about this january 1 monetary nuclear bomb. are we going over the cliff, patrick? >>
for president instead. as a republican against president obama in this past election election. and it's all on tape. this is se lashs almost to the point. we're talking about general petraeus. long-time republican, possible contender, the man who just resigned from running the cia in a sex scandal we still don't understand. here he is on tape talking about how he will have the fox news chairman run his campaign and the owner of fox news will bankroll his campaign and he raises the issue of his wife. there's a certain level of interest in this new tape because of who is on it. beyond that, there's the media factor. here's the fox news channel trying to recruit a presidential candidate for the republican party. the fox news chairman telling bob woodward once he was reporting on this, "i thought the republican field in the primaries needed to be shaken up and petraeus might be a good candidate." he said that on the record. after being caught doing it on tape. which means the fox news channel seriously is not like anything news. they officially are just a media arm of the republican party. they
in egypt. civil war in syria. and radical hamas leader is welcomed in gaza. obama's mid ootion policy is in shambles and former vice president dick cheney says the president's failure puts us all in danger. >> gong ma'am style. >> i love this little chubby south korean guy. >> it's the most downloaded video of all time. >> this is the pony, remember chubby checker. >> gangnam style. >> and bill o'reilly sits down with jay leno. we'll show you the highlights from the late night gab fest. caution, you where to internet no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> hi everywhere, i'm laura ingraham in for bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. g.o.p. and post election blues. that's the subject of this evening's talking points memo many believe the president has the upper hand in the fiscal cliff negotiations. if we gopher 00 cliff republicans think they will get most of the blame. if they give in to tax hikes conservatives believe they will infuriate their base. senator rand paul even believes that since they have such little leverage in the talks of president obama. well, republ
countries for saying that. i'm not playing. i'll explained later in the show. president obama goes to michigan, but did he finally stand up for workers? find out later in the show. do you know what else we have in the show for you? ed asner. he made this video. >> you have rich people peeing on poor people. >> how disgusting. do you have money? >> yeah. >> can i piss on you? >> cenk: damn. we'll show you the original video, we'll show you that, and we have ed right here on the show. and then the elbow of the day we have a little knockout. we'll go to politics, and then cause to celebrate. we have gay marriages in washington that started over the weekend. [ cheering ] >> cenk: what i'm amused by is people who see that celebration and go, o, how terrible. we'll talk about it all on tonight's show. you know what time it is, go time. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: so off and on on this show we talk about money and politics. i think it's the number one issue over all other issues. for once i have an amusing fact about that for you guys. last couple of weeks of the election turns out r
. of course, president obama weighed in on this yesterday when he was in the state of michigan. i think the president got right to the heart of the matter and was on point. >> these so-called right-to-work laws don't have anything to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. giving you the right to work for less money. >> joining me now is a reporter from mother jones magazine. great to have you with us, andy. take us behind the curtain and explain the relationship of the koch brothers and all of these right-to-work organizations that have been pushing this behind the scenes. >> what you see in michigan, behind the scenes as you say, are a number of grassroots groups that have names like americans for prosperity, michigan freedom fund and so forth. they are there to push lawmakers to pass right-to-work legislation, funded by some of the biggest interests on the conservative side. the koch brothers, we're talking about the prince family, eric prince used to run black water. so you have the largest funders, especially in the midwest and the country backing conservative
show. let's get to work. >> unions and! unions. >> the american middle class put president obama back in office. billionaires' are playing get back on the working class. andy carroll is here to unmask the dark money behind the michigan attacked. michigan senator debbie stabenow and verge pinero with the game plan to fight back. >>> john maynor has erick kanter and paul ryan keeping the tea party on line. jan shakur boesky tells us what republicans really have up their sleeves. karl rove is back. the man who wasted millions of dollars on the electrical is now predicting a fiscal close outcome. >>> dick cheney has once again reared his head to attack president obama's foreign-policy. lawrence wilkerson will show us how what the former vice president still isn't shooting straight. >>> good to have you with us. thanks for watching. michigan became the 24 states in the union to past so-called right to work legislation, a major birthplace of the labor moment became the latest target of the right wing. big money interest infiltrating statehouses across this nation. this is what is happening.
, president obama working hard, to be president of all of the 47%. and big business is aligned with the president and his quest to raise taxes on everybody. here is the president today acknowledging that his promise not to raise taxes on middle class will be nul and void on january 1st. the president in his own words confirming that tax hike, coming irrespective of the fiscal cliff outcome. >> taxes are going to go up one way or the other, the key is to make taxes go up and high-end individuals, i am confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. lou: obamacare, guarantees taxes are going up. 5 new obam obamacare-based taxeo kick in next year. a 3.8% surtax on unearned income, and call chains and dividend 18.8%, and a new tax on hospital care, and medical device manufacturersing' taxed 2.3% of the price of their products. americans get a tax deduction if their medical expenses exceed 7.5% of their total income that number rising to 10% for everyone under the age of 65. and government, for first time e
developing news. president obama on the ground in michigan right now starting the week right where he left off last week. using the public to pressure republicans in to extending tax cuts for the middle class to avert the fiscal cliff. these are some live pictures of a diamler plant outside of detroit where the president will be speaking in a couple of minutes. the president greeted by the state's republican governor about an hour ago. one day before a controversial right to work bill the white house is opposed to is signed in to law. we'll have more on that later in the show but as far as the fiscal cliff, our first read team says we are already at the end game if the goal is to get a deal passed by december 21st. now that means the president and house speaker boehner have five days max to reach an agreement. that takes us to the 15th. then the legislation has to be written by the 18th. the president is now working two strategies to get a deal done. he met with speaker boehner yesterday. that's the first face to face in nearly a month and their one on one first one since july 2011. now, t
. >> the operative died on a mission to save a doctor in afghanistan. >>> mum's the word after president obama and house speaker john boehner get together to discuss the fiscal cliff. >>> jenny rivera and others have been killed in a small plane crash. >>> the dallas cowboys win as the clock runs out, just as teammate leaves jail, charged in the death of his long-time friend. >>> good monday morning, i'm sunny hostin, paula faris is off. >> i'm john muller in for rob nelson. >>> we begin this monday with daring u.s. military raid thaet saved the life of an american doctor held hostage in afghanistan. it cost a member of the elite s.e.a.l. team six. >> the president said he and his teammates remind us once more of the selfless service that allows our country to stay strong, safe, and free. >> leon panetta added in this fallen hero and our special operator, americans see the highest ideals of citizenship, sacrifice and service upheld. >> reporter: it happened under the cover of darkness. to rescue this man, philip jose joseph, an american doctor working for morning star development. >> it's team
to a tax revenue target well below the $1.6 trillion obama has demanded over the next decade. hello. open door anybody? that door on rates is clearly not entirely shut on the republican side nor on the president's side. "the post" lays out a scenario in which the house could adopt two competing bills, one extending the bush rates for everyone including the wealthy. the other extending the bush rates just for those making less than $250,000 a year. it gives republicans the opportunity to vote on both bills. both bills would then go to the senate. which would just pass the middle class tax cut bill or the house would end up passing what the senate already passed and that other bill just goes to die. so with it looking less and less likely washington will go over the cliff, that's gone. here are the real questions now. one, how big a deal will the parties make before the end of the year? two, have republicans stumbled into what could be political leverage at least in the short term? if all republicans do is extend the middle class tax cuts, punting the rest of this fight to february, when th
to get a deal passed by next friday, the last day congress is in session. president obama and house speaker john boehner know they have to reach agreement this week if there's to be a deal, which is why they met behind closed doors on sunday. spokesmen for both men say that lines of communication remain open with the president reiterating today that he's up for a big deal. >> i have said i will work with republicans on a plan for economic growth, job creation, and reducing our deficits. i'm willing to compromise a little bit. but if we're serious about reducing our deficit, we've also got to be serious about investing in the thiges that help us grow and make the middle class strong. >> as for speaker boehner, he continued his political posturing today with a statement. quote, the republican offer made last week remains the republican offer, and we continue to wait for the president to identify the spending cuts he's willing to make as part of the balanced approach he promised the american people. that said, an increasingly limber group of republicans are showing flekx 5eb89 on highe
obama, the white house, congressional democrats, want to go over the fiscal cliff because they believe that it is more politically advantageous for them to do so. is that a sentiment you agree with or not? >> i believe that the president and the democrats see a political victory at the bottom of the fiscal cliff. i see financial problems for our country at the bottom of the fiscal cliff with unemployment over 9%, and another recession. i think -- i want to find a solution working with people on both sides of the aisle but when you have howard dean, the former chairman of the democratic national committee, you have patty murray, who ran the democratic senatorial committee encouraging going over the cliff i think it's irresponsible. i think we ought to have the president sitting down with john boehner, finding solutions that can, one, pass the house, and, two, be signed by the president, and i believe if you find that solution, it will pass the senate. >> senator john barrasso, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> next on "andrea mitchell reports" -- as the house heads home, are dem
would have a merlot, and obama would chew nicorette. >> you point outside in the book somehow when they took the official photo, both of those vanished. >> yes. they had iced tea there for obama. of course, boehner had his seg represent, and they put the cigarette in the ashtray away for the picture, but they have not closed the deal on the personal relations, and that's a shame. i think if somebody, instead of sponsoring your breakfast and all, sponsor a weekly dinner between obama and boehner and everyone would agree to pay for it and let them just talk and get to know each other and see, you know, it's -- >> how much -- >> oh, that's right. what do you think? >> i think that's a great idea. [inaudible] a special room. >> i'm not sure -- [inaudible] >> yeah, okay, but, well, you know, but, i, you know, personal relationships, when john was the fbi spokensman, he was not helpful, but you could talk to him, get him on the phone, and if you had a good story, he'd confirm it by laughing, a deep laugh meant you were on the right track. no laughter meant no. [laughter] >> now, it looks
met with president obama at the. we don't know how long they met or exactly what they talked about, but the white house says lines of communication are open and face-to-face meeting is on important. at the same time republicans say they will accept the demands for higher taxes on the wealthy if it goes along with spending cuts entitlements like medicare and social security. listen.... >> a lot of people are putting forth a theory. i think it has merit where you give the president 2% increase he is talking about on the top 2 percent. i am beginning to believe that is the best route for us to take. >> reporter: many other republicans, of course, standing firm against any tax increase. they could give the speaker a hard time if he tries to pass the kind of legislation corker was talking about there. >> and how are the democrats reacting to accept the higher tax rates? >> reporter: they are happy to see movement was made toward the president's position but speaker boehner has not embraced the it. it could be what they talked bebeat the white house but we don't know but still, democrats
captioning sponsored by macneil/lehrer productions >> ifill: president obama said today there would be no deal to avert an economic plunge unless republicans agree to increase taxes on the wealthiest americans. good evening. i'm gwen ifill. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight, kwame holman has the latest on washington's impasse on taxes and spending. >> ifill: then we examine nato's decision to send patriot anti- missile systems to turkey, as fears grow that syrian chemical weapons could cross the border. >> woodruff: jeffrey brown talks to mcclatchy newspapers' egypt correspondent nancy youssef about the massive antigovernment protests in cairo today. >> ifill: we continue our series of conversations about the fiscal cliff. tonight we hear from economist paul krugman. >> i don't think there's going to be much of a deal. i think there's going to be a kind of... there will be an outcome. >> woodruff: from haiti, fred de sam lazaro reports on the efforts to stem a deadly cholera epidemic that began after the 2010 earthquake. >> ifill: and ray suarez talks to au
since the election, president obama rejected a proposal from house speaker john boehner. he spoke on bloomberg television. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. i'm happy to entertain other ideas that the republicans may present. but we are not going to simply cut our way to prosperity or to cut our way out of this deficit problem that we have. we're going to need more revenues. in order to do that, that starts with higher rates for the folks at the top. >> reporter: the president did say today he would consider lowering rates again for the top two percent next year as part of a broader tax overhaul. the house republican plan envisions $2.2 trillion in deficit reductions over the next decade. $800 billion would come from new revenues but with no hike in tax rates for top earners. instead the plan relies on $1.2 trillion in reduced spending including $600 billion from changes in medicare and medicaid. at the white house today, the president met with a bipartisan group of governors pressing his own plan for deficit reduction. that proposal, $1.6
president obama said before the election? i'll remind you don't worry here it comes. my hope, my expectation is that after the election, now that it turns out that the goal beating obama does not make much sense because i'm not running again that we can start getting some cooperation again. hate to do it to you but wrong again, bob. it doesn't look like you're going to get a lot of cooperation. but then the radical wing of the republican party said no the republicans are being too soft and boehner is being too light on the president. his grand bargain proposal the republican counter offer to the extent that it can be interpreted from the hazy details now available is a dud. it's utterly unacceptable. it is bad policy and bad economics. that's the heritage foundation. they're saying it's too liberal boehner's proposal. that's funny. >> to think that the fever will have broken, you have this sort of tea party wing of the party controlling their party. i've said this before, what we need is a republican party. we need leaders that can control their party. >> cenk: yeah, it doesn't look liarlike
when the obama administration says they're willing to go off the cliff if a deal is not reached on rates? >> i don't think it's a bluff. if you look at the reality of what happens, all the leverage which i -- right now clearly the white house has. they get more leverage if we go over their cliff. you can argue that would not send a good message to the country, to the world. it would prove that we are dysfunctional and cannot govern, et cetera, et cetera. in terms of dealing with the policy problem, which is you have this massive and growing debt, you have to bring in more revenues. there's multiple ways to do it, but critical ways to raise rates on the top end. it was what the election was about. republicans want to play the game where they think they get something. at the end of the day they lose worse if we go over the cliff. >> that's an interesting insight because you have alan simpson on the "today" show asked dp one side is a winner or loser off the cliff. here's what he had to say, chris. >> when you have leaders from the administration saying i think it's to the advantag
open between the speaker and the president. president obama took his argument to michigan yesterday, where he also weighed in on a right to work all that's making its way through the state today -- a right to work law. do you support or oppose those laws? michigan will become the 24th state to have one. the phone lines are open. also, send us a tweet or a facebook post, or send us an e- mail. here's what the president said yesterday in michigan. [video clip] >> these right to work law don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what they are really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. [cheers and applause] you only have to look to michigan, where workers were instrumental in reviving the auto industry and to see how unions have helped to build not just a straw upper-middle-class but a stronger america -- stronger middle-class but a stronger america. people and should be focused on the same pink. they should be working to make sure companies like this manufacturer is able to make more great products. that's what they should be f
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republicans will reach an agreement but 43% say they won't. meantime, president obama is giving a stern warning to republicans who may be trying to use the debt ceiling as leverage. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, which by the way we have never done in our history until we did it last year, i will not play that game. >> we should say that the president and house speaker john boehner did speak by phone yesterday. that was the first time in a week. no one is saying what the conversation was about. shortly after that call treasury secretary tim geithner went on cnbc and said the white house is ready to go off the cliff. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff in. >> absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. it's only 2%. >> i want to bring in "usa today" bureau chief and welcome to both of you. where ar
-down time in washington. president obama and the democrats, versus the house republicans and the so-called fiscal live. after weeks of negotiations, publicly, at least, talks have stalled, as the two sides have battled it out over tax hikes hs and entitlement reform. but what can be done about the nation's out-of-control spending. tim murphy is here now. chairman of the house oversight and investigations subcommittee for the energy and commerce committee. good to see you in person. welcome to new york. >> who do you think is going to blink? president obama says he wants the tax hikes to go up on the wealthy. >> we both better get together and come up with a solution. that's what the american family wants. all the other issues, we have to remember, it's what takes place, not at the 30,000 foot level, but at the kitchen table level. that's where the people are very concerned. will they have a job tomorrow? will their children have a job in the future? that means we have to deal with the deficit and the spending. we cannot continue to do this. the president's issue of unlimited power t
way. the head of president obama's jobs council and chairman of general electric turned heads with his comments on the state of china's economy. why jeff immelt says, communism works. gregg: hmmm. they said you had to pass it to find out what's in it. well now the new hidden fee in the new health care law that you will have to pay for. martha: and the hollywood movie about the hunt for bin laden. the newest controversy about the flick upsetting liberals this time. listen. >> we'll never find him. he is one of the newest copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk of osteoporosis and some eye
popular president barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> we just had the super bowl. now we talk about the next one. "new york times" reporter jody cantor interviewed a number of clinton aides about the future plans of hillary clinton and they didn't hold back. jody, great to have you with me today. all corners of clinton world went on record with you about this. you point out the down sides ofa white house run in your piece saying the more serious issue here is she's about 2016, the less she can do. no frank, seen it all memoir. no clients, commissions or controversial positions that could prove problematic. given what the aides told you is it likely she's going to go off the grid for the next several years? >> she's definitely going off the grid for a few weeks or months. her plan is to try to exit the department of state by shortly after inauguration day. and then she really is going into seclusion. lots of people have been asking her to commit for events for 2013. the state department ha
, of president obama who yesterday said this at a daimler plant in nearby redford, michigan. >> i just gotta say this, what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages -- [cheers and applause] you know, these so-called right-to-work laws, they don't have to do with economics, they have everything to do with politics. [cheers and applause] what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. [cheers and applause] we don't want a race to the bottom, we want a race to the top. [cheers and applause] we -- america, america's not going to compete based on low skill, low wage, no workers' rights, so we've got to get past this whole situation where we manufacture crises because of politics. alisyn: well, chris stirewalt is our fox news digital politics editor and host of "power play" on foxnews.com live. hi, chris. >> howdy. alisyn: i hope you can hear me over the deafening roar of what's going on at the statehouse there. it was interesting what president obama said yesterday because, of course, he was supposed to be talking about the
the election for president obama. acorn! let me explain acorn no longer exists. ifit filed for bankruptcy in 2010. these republicans are cuckoo for cocoa puffs. to say that the election was stolen is insanity to begin with. look, i think half of the republicans vote that way because they don't know what is going on. their pastor told them, or they think they're doing it right the other half are literally insane. we have 25% of the country saying oh, my god, 21 is coming and it's because of acorn and obama stole the election and put it on mars! you're insane! 49% of them think this. oh unbelievable! all right now we turn to the second issue general petraeus. now he was, of course, caught with the mistress, etc. his career is done. but before it was done, when he was in afghanistan and president obama was offering him as head job of the c.i.a. the head of fox news sends an fox news analyst to interview him and then delivers the real message. >> i got something to say to you, by the way. >> no one else was in the room i hope? >> well, directly to advance is-- >> i'm not running. >> that's no
. >> reporter: this morning in his weekly address, president obama is holding a hard line on raising rates for the wealthy. >> and if we're serious about protecting middle-class families, then we're also going to have to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that's one principle i won't compromise on. >> reporter: but how much higher could be the key. the top tax rate is set to rise from 35% to 39.6% on january 1st. when asked if a middle ground could be found, both boehner and biden showed some wiggle room. >> the top brackets have to go up. it's not a negotiable issue. theoretically we can negotiate how far up. >> reporter: at another local restaurant, the owner has seen enough of washington gridlock. >> i wish those lawmakers would get their [ bleep ] together and get it done and try to help everybody. it would be good if they could do it before the holidays are over. >> reporter: craig, as someone who spent some time in river city here in washington, i wanted to show you this. these are the inaugural stands right on pennsylvania avenue, right in front of the white house
for us to compete. >> how are they doing that? >> president obama is making the rounds. he is going to help us out by increasing our taxes. the only way we can beat governor is by investing in equipment. if the wage rates are lower in china and steel costs the same electricity costs the same the only way i can make business is to have better gimeequipment ane only way to have better equipment is to continually investment the only way to continually invest is make a profit. we are unable to invest in equipment capital accumulation increases wage growth decreases. >> there are a lot of big businesses that do okay. ge didn't pay any taxes at all. really big corporations are finding ways to be multi national. they can get accountants and lawyers to help circumvent the complexities of the tax code. as a small business operator do you get to do those things? >> when president obama came to hatfield, pennsylvania which is a few miles down the street about a week ago he was covered by all of the press as it should be. the rooep i am on your show is we tried to have a similar event showing h
the merlot and nicorette meeting come in other words, boehner would have a merlot and obama which you nicorette. >> you point out in the boat somehow when they took the official photo, both of the spanish. >> yes, they had iced tea for obama. of course boehner had a cigarette and they put the cigarette in the ashtray away from the picture. but they haven't closed the deal on the personal relations and that's a shame. i think somebody said this month during your breakfast, you should sponsor a weekly dinner between obama and honor and everyone would agree to pay for it and let them talk and get to know each other. [inaudible] >> john collingwood. that's right. what do you think? [inaudible] [laughter] >> a special round? well, you know it's a personal relationships, when john was the sba spokesman, he was often not helpful, but you could always talk to him and get him on the phone and if you have a good story, he would confirm it by laughing. a deep laugh that you run the right track. no laughter meant no. >> overlooks lake the tide is going against republicans. >> well, i think in the
cliff is what we're talking about this morning. that's the starting point. president obama and the house speaker speaking face to face for the first time in more than three weeks. the two men who stand between millions of americans and the fiscal cliff sat down, had a conversation. a critical development 22 days away from the cliff, which means severe tax hikes and spending cuts unless the two can find a way to compromise. nobody is saying much. but spokesperson says the lines of communication remain open erskin bowles said this. >> you know, they have started to tango now and any time have you two guys in there tangoing, have you a chance to get it done. >> our white house correspondent, brianna keilar, live in washington, d.c. this morning. it doesn't sound like very much. but i guess we're making a lot out of it, a first step. any indication where it goes next? >> we don't know where it goes next. they are saying the lines of communication are open. we're expecting the white house and the speaker's office, they are going to continue talking. we don't know when the meeting, the next me
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